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| Posted: Wed Nov 11th, 2009 04:31 am |
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I have long been a fan of electric motorcycles. Seeing startup companys like Zero, Brammo and GPR-S come up with exciting products is refreshing. I was leaning towards Zero as a favorite but now Brammo cut the price to $7995.00 pre fed tax rebate. All of a sudden its becoming alot more practical! And being sold in Best Buy stores adds credibility to the product! http://www.brammo.com All the best, Aaron Lephart Brammo Introduces New Price For The Enertia Plug-In Electric Motorcycle, Now $7,995 The 33% savings is a direct result of engineering advances Ashland, Oregon - November 10, 2009 – BRAMMO, maker of plug-in electric motorcycles, announced today it is dropping the price of the all-electric BRAMMO Enertia powercycle, to $7,995. Customers are also eligible for a 10% federal income tax credit, further reducing the price to $7,195. "While this pricing breakthrough is innovative in transportation, it is in line with consumer electronics, where engineering and production advances get passed on to customers as quickly as possible to stimulate adoption of the technology," stated Craig Bramscher, founder and CEO of Brammo. "The Enertia is consumer electronics that you can ride and BRAMMO's engineers are able to deliver a better value proposition to customers sooner than a traditional transportation company." Today, qualified customers can walk into select Best Buy stores and with a $2,000 down payment, ride out on an Enertia for $249 a month with 24-month no interest with payments financing offered through Best Buy. The Enertia can also be purchased direct from http://www.BRAMMO.com in select states where the product is not yet available at a Best Buy. The BRAMMO Enertia powercycle is the ideal commuter vehicle as it blends an exhilarating ride experience with environmental consciousness and low operating costs. The Enertia has a top speed of over 60 mph, has a range of 42 miles and charges in about four hours by plugging into a standard wall outlet-all while using less than a dollar in electricity per 100 miles ridden. "With this price reduction Brammo has positioned electric vehicles for the mass market and consumers can now be part of a solution to the transportation crises that America is facing," said Bramscher. "The wait is over, consumers can now buy an EV that is price competitive with a gas burning alternative and enjoy reduced maintenance and substantially lower ownership costs."
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| Posted: Wed Nov 11th, 2009 08:08 am |
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For those of you in California! $5695.00! California Has a rebate system in place (AFIP) and it is anticipated to receive up to $1M in additional funding. The new proposed AQIP program (with AB118 funding) will have $5000 for EVs, $3000 for PHEV, and $1500 for electric motorcycles (ZEMs) and Neighborhood Electric Vehicles (NEVs).California Other rebates listed by state are located at: http://action.pluginamerica.org/t/5960/content.jsp?content_KEY=5545 All the best, Aaron Lephart
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| Posted: Sun Nov 15th, 2009 05:33 am |
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I drove one today for the first time. It was fully charged and I had a free 20 minute run on the bike. To get some real world number I kept the throttle pinned off the line all the way up to the max 65MPH speed I saw. Using the onboard display after my drive it said I would have about a 15 mile range total if I drove like that all the time! The capacity guage read 80%. I was told to get the best range to keep the throttle at 50% or below on its dashboard display. The power delivery is smooth as silk. I would say the power is compareable to my 2008 250 Ninja up to about 50MPH. It was great to finally get to drive this bike, I had heard so much about it online. All The Best, Aaron Lephart
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| Posted: Mon Nov 16th, 2009 06:56 am |
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Just a couple of comments to add about the Brammo motorcycle. The suspension is very nice, with 41mm Marchozzi forks and an Elka rear shock. The braking is very good to. With Brembo calipers. The stops are very sure footed. 2 little things I thought would be a nice addition. 1 is a cut off for the motor when the brakes are applied (if you can make it seemless). In other words, no delay when power is reapplied and the brake is disengaged. I can see a newbie grabbing the throttle and the brakes at the same time. 2 would be the addition of hardware to mount spools to the swingarm. This would allow the use of a rear stand that is much easier to use then a stand that uses lift pads. I have sold literally hunderds of each and the spooled "buttons" are the preferred method! I still find it odd to be seeing no clutch lever! I heard from someone at Brammo that they may add a lever there to disengage the motor. All the best, Aaron Lephart  
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| Posted: Wed May 26th, 2010 04:47 am |
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Updated tomorrow! http://smartcar451.blogspot.com/ All the best, Aaron Lephart
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| Posted: Fri May 28th, 2010 12:00 am |
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Taken from the Brammo forum: Got back to my house. Been riding the bike around showing people all day. Man what a whirlwind. I will post alot more as time alots. I will give you the short rundown. I see ad for used Brammo with 400 miles for $4750.00. We make contact to drive 430 miles up North to look at it. I offer him $4300.00 cash and he said $4500.00 and I agree we proceed to turn around and drive 430 miles home with it in back of an Avalanche. Honestly the bike color is orange and it was not my first choice but now its REALLY growing on me! Best of all, NO REBATES TO DEAL WITH! WAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I feel bad for not being able to buy the bike NEW and support Brammo directly. The fact that it will be driven around alot makes me feel better about it. All the best, Aaron Lephart 
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| Posted: Wed Jun 2nd, 2010 04:52 am |
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Really enjoying this bike! The sound of silence is so welcoming! The bike, the people and the company behind it are awe inspiring. Really happy with this purchase! .30 to recharge. And I am at about 250 miles on it since I bought it! All the best, Aaron Lephart
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| Posted: Sat Jun 12th, 2010 03:50 am |
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Going on 15days without filling up the smart car because I have been riding the bike as much as possible. Typically I fill up once a week at a cost of $22.00. Using a kill-a-watt meter charging the bike took $4.78. 30kwh So it's safe to say: $20.00-$30.00 worth of electricy per month with the Brammo. $22.00-$44.00 worth of gas saved per month depending on use. $25.00 worth of oil and filter saved per 7500 miles with the Brammo. Plus the trouble of storing and recycling the used oil. Then the cost of an air filter, valve adjustments, carb syncing, etc thats all involved with a internal combustion engine (I.C.E.). All the best, Aaron Lephart
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| Posted: Tue Jun 15th, 2010 03:40 am |
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Going on 3 weeks now without a smart car fillup because of the Brammo! I could go 4 weeks but I did some extra driving on this tank. All the best, Aaron Lephart
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| Posted: Sat Jun 26th, 2010 07:31 pm |
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Improvement ideas! More rigid turn signals On more then one occasion I have taken the right rear signal off its mount when demounting the bike with riding boots on. And the front left turn signal bounces going down the road to much in my opinion. The signal is not loose, I already checked. And the right front signal bounces the same amount but is hidden my the brake master cylinder. Charging port Simply plugging the bike in without lifting the seat would be great! Larger rear fender The rear fender does not do a reasonable enough job keeping debris off the underside of the bike! Seat latch Simply "popping" the seat with a key and not having to use 2 hands to undo. Also putting the seat on springs so that it "pops" up. Also please redesign the front seat latch. Either the piece on the bike or the piece on the seat keeps getting bent because it's hard to line up! Turning off headlight I would love the ability to turn off the headlight while the Brammo drive is engaged. Small rearview mirrors I think the rearview mirrors are too small! Offset the larger wind resistance with incorporating turn signals into the mirrors! Steering I think the steering has to narrow a range from lock to lock. It makes parking lot maneuvers more difficult. Side stand I find it difficult to locate at times. I would suggest a small standoff pin to make it more visible. I would also make the resting pad a little larger. The pad is so small and the weight is so great that it often times marks the concrete where it rests. Swingarm Please add threaded inserts for the use of a “race style” swingarm stand. I have sold hundreds of these stands and believe them to be superior to the “cushion pad style” stands. Lower triple clamp Please add a center hole on the lower triple clamp for the use of a front stand. This type of stand has better clearance for wheel removal and allows more advanced users to remove the forks. Front fender It seems to me the front fender has A LOT of space between the tire and the fender. I can easily put my whole hand in there! This cannot be good for aerodynamics. Different motor maps I would love the ability to switch between different motor maps. Have one for performance and have one that limits acceleration and top speed to extend the range. Let good throttle control find the happy medium! Rear brake regeneration You have already "spent" the energy to move the bike forward. Why not try and recapture some of that during braking? I would only want this on the rear wheel however. For ease of implementation, and to not upset the suspension during certain situations. Dual trip meters with auto reset It would be nice to have dual trip meters. And after the bike reaches 100% S.O.C. during recharge that one of the trip meters reset's. It would be nice to also have a Kwh reading for the trip meter! Front fork preload ajustment It would be nice at the very least to have preload ajustments for the front forks. Steering head rake angle The bike rides at speed like a much smaller bike. The wheelbase is average so that would lead be to believe the steering head rake angle is to narrow (@ 24 degrees). A small rake angle is great at low speed but @ 60+MPH its a bit sketchy. (THIS HAS BEEN UPDATED! I NOW BELIEVE THIS IS ATTRIBUTED TO THE HIGH PSI IN THE TIRES CAUSEING A SMALL CONTACT PATCH) S.O.C. communication device To remotely view the Enertia's S.O.C. during the recharge cycle. Rather then make ths an "app" for a smartphone I would rather have a display I could put in my pocket to view it. This would be helpful when charging it in the garage and I am upstairs, or @ a coffee shop when I am inside. Charging mode Please allow the ability to enter recharge mode without having to remember to turn off the headlight! Tires Please work with tire manufactures to develop a low rolling resistance tire, but still has grip in the turns! Not just overinflate a standard tire to its maximum rated pressure. The harshness in the ride quality can directly be attributed to the high tire PSI. Cover for under the tailight The wiring and taillight sockets are exposed to the road debris. Make a cover for this area. (Also possible fix by larger rear fender) Speed up the Enertia's start up sequence Part of consumers ability to adapt to new technologies is to make them as similar as possible to other items they may be familiar with. For motorcyclists this involves being able to turn the key and go in the shortest time possible. While it may seem routine. Making sure headlight is on, having to cycle the run switch from on/off and the dashboard booting all takes time. Anything that can be done to speed this up would be great. Torque specifications Please provide normal maintenance torque values in the owner’s manual. Every other motorcycle manufacture I have ever owned had torque values printed right in the owner’s manual. Front axle pinch bolts, rear axle nut are values that all owners should have. Increase front brake disc brake pad swept area The swept area on the front brake disc is not fully used. I would estimate it at 75% contact. Although it is still benefits from a larger brake disc to keep cool. O-ring chain Please use a standard 420 O-ring type chain. It will stay lubricated longer and I believe it to be superior. Target power use screen Allow the rider to set a fixed target similar to the peak power use screen. Once that target % is reached, cue the rider with flashing the green lights. I originally thought of a small buzzer, like the one I want for the turn signals. But that would get annoying. This would encourage better driving efficiency. All the best, Aaron Lephart
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| Posted: Wed Jun 30th, 2010 04:07 am |
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Just crunching some numbers real quick. I figure it will take 25,000 miles to break even from the price I got for my old bike to the Brammo. Thats even with electricity to power it. A long time to payback, but much shorter then if I had bought new. And its good for the enviroment. Although I will never repay all the tree's I killed with my CTS-V and Corvette's. All the best, Aaron Lephart
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| Posted: Thu Jul 1st, 2010 05:53 pm |
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Another angle. I currently recharge 50% of the time off solar power. That brings the break even point to 12,500 miles over the cost of an I.C.E. bike. Of course my ultimate goal is to get solar of my own. All the best, Aaron Lephart
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| Posted: Thu Jul 15th, 2010 02:45 pm |
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Already a new model! PRESS RELEASE Brammo announces the Empulse - a trio of electric motorcycles capable of 100mph+, 100 miles on a single charge, with prices starting at $9995 Ashland, Oregon – July 7th, 2010. Brammo, Inc. announced today it will begin production of an electric sportbike, calling it the "Empulse." It demonstrated a pre-production prototype today and all three production models of the Empulse will be capable of sustaining 100 mph. The three models will have different battery capacities, all utilizing an innovative proprietary array, the Brammo Power™ battery and vehicle management system. The Empulse is available for immediate order and deliveries will commence in 2011. Craig Bramscher, Founder and CEO of Brammo said "motorcycle riders have been requesting increased speed and range and I am proud and delighted to reveal these game changing Brammo electric motorcycles. Our customers expect Brammo to design and produce the world's most exciting (and affordable) electric motorcycles and that's exactly what we have done." Bramscher continued, "today's announcement promises no more range anxiety for Brammo customers." The Empulse Trio All three models of the Empulse will be freeway capable and will enjoy a top speed in excess of 100mph. Each of the three models will offer customers a different average range from a single charge. The Empulse 6.0 is capable of 60 miles average range , the Empulse 8.0 is capable of 80 miles average range and the top of the line Empulse 10.0 is capable of a travelling 100 miles on a single charge. Range of all three models can be extended by travelling at lower speeds. Estimated MSRP for the Empulse trio when deliveries start next year are; Empulse 6.0 $9,995, Empulse 8.0 $11,995 and Empluse One Hundred $13995. All three models will be eligible for Federal and State tax incentives. For example, the Empulse 10.0 may cost as little as $7000 in certain states after Federal and State incentives. Empulse Technology Todays announcement sees the first application of Brammo's innovative electric powertrain system including the Brammo Power™ battery pack and Brammo Power™ vehicle management system. Brammo's breakthrough in price/energy density is at the heart of today's announcement and is unequalled in the electric vehicle industry. The Empulse is also the world's first production electric motorcycle to have a water cooled motor. Brian Wismann, Director of Product Development at Brammo and designer of the Empulse said, "The Empulse reveals the significant price performance that we can deliver using Brammo Power™ technology. Just like it did with the Enertia Powercycle, Brammo has again raised the bar in terms of electrical drivetrain innovation and time to market." Empulse Availability Customers can place their order for an Empulse by visiting the Brammo website http://www.brammo.com . Deliveries are expected to commence in mid-2011 and orders will be filled on a first-come, first-serve basis. Customers placing an order will receive a production number and will be expected to pay a fully refundable $99 deposit once their motorcycle is within 90 days of delivery. The Brammo range of motorcycles will be available globally through select motorcycle dealerships and participating Best Buy stores. Brammo Distribution Brammo is expanding its dealership network both within the USA and in Europe and Asia. Organizations interested in selling and servicing the Brammo range of motorcycles, which includes the award winning Enertia, can register their interest by visiting http://www.brammo.com/dealerapplication Adrian Stewart, director of Sales and Marketing at Brammo said "We are always looking for individuals and organizations that want to enter into a long term business partnership with Brammo to sell and service our range of electric vehicles. JCAM ,our distributor/dealer in Hong Kong and Singapore is an excellent example of such an organization. " Forged in the Heat of Competition Brammo Power™ technology employed in the Empulse is race proven in the Brammo Empulse RR race bike. You can see the Empulse RR in action at the 2010 Red Bull Grand Prix Mazda Raceway, Laguna Seca. Brammo will race the Empulse RR in the FIM e-Power series which will see 15 electric motorcycle teams from around the world compete on this demanding circuit. Meet the Empulse Brammo CEO Craig Bramscher will be unveiling the Empulse at the 2010 Red Bull Grand Prix at the Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca in Monterey, California, on Saturday July 24th 2010. Later this year the Empulse will be on display at EICMA in Milan, Italy and at the Macau Grand Prix in China
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| Posted: Fri Jul 16th, 2010 09:39 pm |
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Finally a solid month of tracking! @.16 per kw Week 1: $4.78 Week 2: $8.76 Week 3: $11.84 Week 4: $16.30 kw usage total Week 1: 30 Week 2: 55 Week 3: 74 Week 4: 101 All the best, Aaron Lephart
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27th, 2010 05:03 am |
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I contacted city hall and they said that I could "hookup" and charge at any palm tree around city hall! They have electrical outlets that are always on for Christmas lights. They also cleared it with Police services so that I am not ticketed! All the best, Aaron Lephart
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